Just a holster and ammo. My good friend, Kyle Lamb, was there as well doing some demonstrations for SIG. I liked how they shot very much. $16.99 $ 16. The P365 is a winner. Unfortunately our town is just about out of guns and ammo and the link on your page is out of stock so it looks like it may be a while before I will get the real life experience of the P365. But I would recommend spending an hour or two on the range with a qualified instructor to gain confidence and experience. I don’t have a problem with my Walther or Kahr magazines whether they be 6 round or i5 round mags. Perhaps my gun is not picky with that particular round, and yours is slightly more so. BLACK POINT, P365, IWB, LH HOLSTER . 150 rounds thru it, no issues with feed,fire, or eject, what I did notice was mags impossible to load by hand after 3th round as the follower gets hung up. 8 Posts . Thank you for your wonderful review. Perhaps it will settle down in time, and soon you will have no problem shooting your preferred round choice. As an engineer, it’ll drive me crazy until I do. Thanks so much for a great in-depth review. I bought 2 12rd magazines and carry it everyday in an IWB holster. This was about 200 rounds in after shooting a variety of SIG Sauer FMJ loads. 4. I don’t know what kind of witchcraft the engineers in Exeter, NH are employing, but for the size and thickness of the P365 to be able to fit 10 or 12 rounds into a profile that doesn’t look any bigger than an S&W Shield, it is pure witchcraft I’m telling you, pure witchcraft! I’m curious. I'm nitpicking here, but I would like to see a different design of the mag release. Best concealed carry piece I’ve found yet and I have a few that I’ve tried over the years. I don’t want to spend another 25 – 30 percent of the pistol cost so I can aim the damn thing. P365 SAS. I guarantee you it costs them WAY more money to go about it that way. Thank you for the kind words. © 2021 Concealed Carry Inc. All Rights Reserved. I like the XRAY3 Day/Night sights especially how the rear sight tritium vials are very visible but appear “blacked out” during daylight conditions drawing your attention to the front sight. Do you have a link for a review from women? Thanks again..I’m excited to try it out…whenever that may be. The trigger is nice and doesn’t tire the finger out quickly. Thanks for all the info! Be safe. Do you think the ambi safety paddles would interfere with the top of the thumb of the right hand? The P365 is super thin, lightweight, but the texturing makes for a confident, repeatable firing grip. But use the Maglula Uplula to assist, and it makes it substantially easier to load. I think I still prefer it over the Hellcat, although you should go with what you think is best for you. This won’t make much difference if you draw from a holster, but it makes a huge difference if you draw from any kind of pocket. BUT I absolutely do not agree that the new sights are great or even passable sights. I think a hybrid approach would have been better—flat, but have the rear of the button start flush with the grip. On the 212th shot, the Federal aluminum 115-grain case failed to extract and a double-feed occurred. PISTOL SIZE. I always like learning about new holsters and manufacturers I didn’t know about before! They’re good people. I don’t think you made a mistake. The grip is, *Looking For A Class? I won’t express them as I don’t want to sway your thoughts. I always recommend carrying in a good quality holster. Even on this early model P365 with a couple of thousand rounds through it, there is some light peening, but it doesn't appear to be causing any long-term issues. If not, don’t worry about it; I’ll find the answer eventually. And quite honestly, the attitude of my SIG rep didn’t help. 16 shots later the same thing happened. If i purchase this p365, will i be able to replicate this performance immediately? I may be able to help diagnose the problem. I think it is most likely shooter interference with the slide stop. have you experienced a hard time loading the magazines when new and if so, what was your break-in period. Your mileage may vary depending on how effective and tight you grip your gun, but it is still seriously impressive. Terms of Use - Privacy Policy - Affiliates - Weapons Policy, Enter the SIG P365. This does not make any sense. thanks. Discussion Starter • #1 • Jan 18, 2020. Glad it’s working so much better for you since the repair! Called SIG, sent her back to the factory and received her back yesterday. P365 ; P365 SAS; Skip to the end of the images gallery . I’m selling a gun to get me one. Yeah, it’s a sweet gun. 3. That’s the reason I did not swap the mag release to be a lefty setup like I do on my other guns. View Product. In analyzing the instances where this has occurred, I’ve determined that the palm of my support hand is making contact with the rear portion of the button that’s raised above the grip surface. We need something to protect us when we are camping, hiking, driving, walking around our city, and even traveling to reciprocity cc states. I can tell you that I have spent thousands of hours on the range and at home doing dryfire practice. If you really are serious about ballistics, then you should also know that there is no perfect round, but there are a number of them that are all “suitable.” I have not seen anything ballistics test-wise that would suggest the RA9T is substantially better than say Federal HST or Speer Gold Dot. Great article, Riley! I know you said that the bullets Throughout the remainder of the summer, I fired an additional 3,000 rounds through the two guns, about half-and-half. If the holster you ordered is the same one I think it is, it is actually made by Blackpoint Tactical, and they make pretty good stuff, so good luck!! Save Compare. Shootability—I come back to a statement I made earlier. or GrayGuns/PHLSTER Classic holsters, and there was tons of holster support for it from the get go. I was a certified firearms instructor in Louisiana as well as through the NRA. Can you tell me about purchasing the Sig P365 with the Manual Safety on it? The concept of the SIG Anti Snag (SAS) […] Well done, sir. I just bought one of these for daily carry. Overall, when shooting even just decent quality brass-cased loads, the P365 exhibited a 99.96% reliability rating. It may make it easier to get on the list by the new safety model being made available. I have many in my stockpile as well. This strategy, from every perspective,is flawed. Does it live up to the hype? A number of people including some respected reviewers have indicated that the gun may not be quite ready for prime time, that it was released too early, almost like a “beta version” to be tested by the gun-buying masses. I was concerned over all the incidents reported. Awesome! What is the distance from the rear of the back strap to the trigger. I took an engineering class in college (Statics and Strengths of Materials), and I remembered the term “modulus of elasticity.” I suddenly felt super smart and Voila! You will see from images in this article that my guns are still dirty. I carried a Kel-Tec PF9 for a couple of years and now that I have the P365, it has been relegated to the ‘class gun collection’! That said, with practice and proper application of technique, it should be easy to accomplish. THREADED BARREL. I think SIG has done all right with the P365 line of guns. Personally, I have three. You have provided an excellent review regarding this new sig 9mm. With the experience with the p938 I will get rid of my Glock 43 and purchase a p365 in six months to see if there are any new upgrades. This is where the P365 gets the greatest amount of attention and rightfully so. As with any product rolling changes are made in the manufacturing process to parts but there are no persistent issues with failures with any of these models. They are good, serviceable tritium-based sights that are far better than what many firearm manufacturers put on their stock pistols. I don’t have any issue hand feeding rounds in the mag. It disappears in an IWB holster – and you don’t have to wear MC Hammer pants – and it’s small enough to wear in an ankle holster. My first trigger press actually surprised me. Interesting…I hadn’t considered anything like that from the lefty side of things, but I can see that. Skip to the beginning of the images gallery . My 1st purchase was the Smith and Wesson 380EZ. It’s definitely different than what most people are used to. The undercut on the trigger guard of the P365 is a really nice feature allowing the gun to sit even lower in the hand. LOL! One comes with a ported barrel and slide, reducing muzzle flip, and one without, for those who would prefer not to have the additional muzzle flash. Awesome ergonomics, sights and trigger and a 50% capacity advantage over the competition. It is all of those things—slimmer than the Glock 43, lighter than the Shield. So far, my biggest complaint is the mag release: it is awkwardly uncomfortable to access and depress. @Riley I bought one last week. I have a P365 (October of 2018 production) and have had relatively little range time so far due to the weather and the season. Pay attention to HOW FLAT the gun is in my hand: That is some serious voodoo magic. I first got my hands on the P365 just before SHOT Show at a special SIG SAUER Range Day Media event. If your hands are big, your right-hand thumb should be well above the safety lever. with aluminum and steel casings malfunctioned & that ones with brass casings were better. We’re not a family that will be at the range weekly, or shooting competitive, and have zero desire to show off our weapons. P365 SAS. Well, maybe. If you are on a personal connection, like at home, you can run an anti-virus scan on your device to make sure it is not infected with malware. … Couldn’t get a video but I was able to fire 100 rounds of my self-defense ammo (Winchester Ranger 147 gr. In my view Sig (as other gun are doing)) heading down the same path. Firstly, I am a Sig fan and carry the P220 daily. Still going strong. Oddly enough, after shooting several hundred rounds I came to almost prefer the flush baseplate when using the 10-round mags. I could have contacted SIG and said, “Never mind on sending the gun, I have one already.” But I was interested in getting my hands on another one made at a totally different time for comparison. Back to the recoil … the recoil with the P365, like its trigger, is deceptive. Bore axis height is an overrated factor, but regardless the SIG P365 performs exceptionally well in this regard. I saw a graphic online with the outlines of 3 of the most popular single-stack 9mm handguns overlaid and compared to the P365. Readily available. I am very happy with the one I’ve bought. I shelfed my Glock 43 & sold my p938 & purchased the p365 as my EDC & I love it. Hello, Check this out: Meprolight Micro RDS Red Dot Sight Kit for Sig Sauer P365. Failure-to-Extract (Double-feed) malfunctions were quite common when using steel or aluminum-cased ammunition. Haven’t bee able to get to the range yet. As for the QC thing…there is ZERO financial incentive for them to release any products that are not ready for market and will require any sort of major recall or repair program. The FOXTROT365 Light is an aesthetically appealing match for the P365, easy to operate and plenty bright. There are other good rounds out there. BTW, I had ZERO failures in those 500 rounds without even cleaning or oiling it when I first brought it home. Carried a Glock for most of my career, love them, but hate their feel. Please feel free to ask if there’s anything else I can help you with! … Question: have you reviewed the Walther PPS and how would you compare them? 89 talking about this. Perhaps a warranty issue? My current edc is a CZ pcr w/ tru-glo sights and G10 grips. Prior experience with other sig models’ great quality sights were part of the reason I picked the P365 over the Shield M2.0. Erica. Cloudflare Ray ID: 61ea979caa7c2224 I also read that the NJ state police had an extraction issue with sig on an order for service pistols a few years ago which sig said was an ammo issue. However, early into the P365 launch, it was discovered that many early customer’s pistols were breaking the tritium vials due to the extreme recoil velocity of the slide. Perhaps next year! Looks like a great concealed carry handgun for off duty or back up. The P365 has a raised mag release button which shape follows the contour of the grip. I like the contouring, the stippling, the length—there’s many great aspects of the grip. One thing I noticed is looking at the back of the slide where the striker cover plate is located when holding the gun, it sits very low in the hand indeed. With practice, it can be accomplished very quickly and consistently. I just purchased my 1st CC piece and your review is what sold me on it! The gun ran perfectly smoothly until I started shooting the Federal aluminum-cased ammo. older P226 P229 but not new. The one failure-to-feed I experienced was with a +P Winchester round. The dealer is a distributor and assured me that the one I have is all clear. Effectively, everything about the P365 has been slimmed down, streamlined, and made so that nothing on the gun can catch on anything. Thanks. seems about right. Even better than the capacity and the ability to still remain a very concealable gun? I don’t think the handling of the P320 fiasco was as “nefarious” as what some think. I put 100 rounds through it and really like the way it shoots. A tease?—think red dot and compensator as a start …”. Pros and Cons of the Sig P365 SAS. Please keep in mind, that in my experience through about 6,000 rounds now, there aren’t any issues. It disappears on my body in either the Tac-Lab M.T.R. That’s four more rounds than the G43, and three more than the M&P Shield. All guns have issues. I was just having fun with writing something super smart sounding while trying to explain the difference in reliability between the three different case materials. Thank You. None of my other guns do this, even LCP2. One of the big difference makers with this gun is the trigger. With dimensions of 5.8 inches long, 4.1 inches tall, and just one inch wide, the 17.8 ounce, striker-fired P365 is a tiny wonder of engineering. Thanks for your thoughts on the manual safety version. The extractor on those pistols are very different than the P229. What is your favorite range and carry around to date for this pistol? A view of the backside of the GrayGuns holster for the P365 showing the integrated wedge which makes this gun invisible even with the 12-round mag. Would you consider this gun (now as of Nov 2019) or the new Hellcat as a primary carry gun, including range time? Lol. But they’re also freaking out over some other aspects of the pistol, and not necessarily in a positive way. But this is a minor complaint because I clearly shoot the P365 just fine. A close-up of the fitment and detail of the 12-round extended magazine. My warrantee has expired as it has been over a year and sig says I can, once again, send it in and they will have it looked at for a forth time. I’d value your opinion. The width of the grip is less than an inch wide which is fine. Not perfect, but as I’ve shown SIG’s not alone in this challenging world of firearm product development. As for snagging on clothes or something, I also don’t think that’ll be a problem. Did you ever do this? If it was brass-cased ammo, it functioned very reliably. I also feel that SIG was very smart in their approach to have the trigger break at 90-degrees and in the “middle” of the stroke as opposed to at the rear of the trigger guard. MAGS INCLUDED. I wasn’t expecting it to fire so quickly and easily. 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